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`I like the way this set of four milestones now reads. By using the concept of multiple milestones, the person submitting the set has now, in my opinion, solved the previous problem of having various discordant accomplishments listed. Bell Labs accomplshed a great deal in the period of 60 years from 1925-1984. This ingenious approach of using accomplishments in four major categories, with a milestone for each, although clearly far from exhausting all the major accomplishments, does provide an overview to how significant the activities at Bell Labs were.
I also agree with the group milestone. It avoids the possibility of one for every advancement of technology over the years. We can recognize the progression of solutions and recognize them at one time.
IEEE Milestone Program style is that year, or the range of years, must appear in the title of each milestone. This will allow shortening the citations by removing the introductory phrase "From 1925 thru 1983" from each, so that they fit the word limit.
I have a problem with the first claim in the 4th plaque, namely, "the first facsimile service (1925) There were at least 2 earlier commercial facsimile services in Europe, The first existed between 1865 and 1870 between Paris and Lyon, France, and the second better-known one between 1907 and 1910 connecting Berlin, Paris, and London. Also, RCA began transatlantic fax service between the U.S. and Europe in 1922. Hence, this claim is not true and should be deleted from the citation. Please ask former HC member Jonathan Coopersmith if more details are needed.
I agree with Mischa. There is so much involved in this milestone that we could argue about details forever. I think it is ready for approval
I like the four plaques and the listings which now provide adequate space to recognize all the achievements. This approach should be used for other large corporate milestones that may be granted in the future when appropriate. Further, the use of "A" facsimile in 1925 in the fourth plaque should satisfy Sheldon's correct statements that several other facsimile services already existed, whether or not they were in active use. I vote to approve the Bell milestones. --Dave Bart